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This is getting out of control gentlemen, we need a plan of action soon and I can tell you right now throwing fists in the parking lot is NOT going to cut it.

Agreed. We have quite a few people who drive 2+ hours to attend games, not including myself. I don't want to see their gas money and time wasted. I'd like to host games knowing that waking up in the weee hours in the morning isn't going to be cut short because of chump with male clitoris syndrome.

What are our options for getting someone to leave or not show up with us playing on public land and all?

While I hate the idea of losing the large player base we have, peoples' safety is a bigger concern. People like robert, doc, clint and ross sew discontent.

Another alternative is for players to sign an agreement on here and or on the field. We congregate as a group, and while we may not be officially chartered we're still considered a "club". This agreement is basically, they agree to follow all rules, respect the land and others including non players. And by doing so they also agree that when they are banned they will not be allowed to play with sacair anymore.

I agree with the hiatus from public land for now. It was such a headache at the last Nam game I went to dealing with Ross and his idiot crew.

We are going to be hosting a game at the Galt field Sunday. Last time we ran a game there we had total control over the game, it worked very very well. If you can make if Lewis we would love to have you there, We can all talk to the owners ( totally cool in my dealings with them) and see what they think of our ideas.

the fact that we bring in a steady amount of customers is enough for them. Plus the fact that any problems that we have also becomes their's too, legally and financially (insurance). So it would also be in their best interest to agree to our blacklist.

[quote="CPairsofter"]We are going to be hosting a game at the Galt field Sunday. Last time we ran a game there we had total control over the game, it worked very very well. If you can make if Lewis we would love to have you there, We can all talk to the owners ( totally cool in my dealings with them) and see what they think of our ideas.[/quote]

bring 'em out. My girls will be out there too ;)

hmmm...... not a bad idea, I will have to talk it over with the wifey :D

An idea?

word gets around to much....I thought that might work too but after reviewing the details I think it wont. And we still have the problem of 0 control if some jackasses get bhut hurt they are not part of the "in" crowd and show up outa the blue.

lets not have an "IN" crowd.

They are all good ideas but they still do nothing to solidify legal backing when we ban someone from public field games. The whole problem right now is we have this guy Ross who has been banned for multiple reasons. He has now decided to show up to our public field games ( and by that I mean games hosted on public land like NAM) and play anyways. Other members of his little clique have now stated they plan on doing the same thing if and when we call them on safety problems and the like.

I was thinking the same thing Lewis.

[quote="Bordicon"]0.Find real way for enforce. Like using force, or calling the police.[/quote]

[quote="CPairsofter"]They are all good ideas but they still do nothing to solidify legal backing when we ban someone from public field games. The whole problem right now is we have this guy Ross who has been banned for multiple reasons. He has now decided to show up to our public field games ( and by that I mean games hosted on public land like NAM) and play anyways. Other members of his little clique have now stated they plan on doing the same thing if and when we call them on safety problems and the like.[/quote]

[quote="Bizcuits"][quote="CPairsofter"]They are all good ideas but they still do nothing to solidify legal backing when we ban someone from public field games. The whole problem right now is we have this guy Ross who has been banned for multiple reasons. He has now decided to show up to our public field games ( and by that I mean games hosted on public land like NAM) and play anyways. Other members of his little clique have now stated they plan on doing the same thing if and when we call them on safety problems and the like.[/quote]

[quote="ukau"][quote="Bizcuits"][quote="CPairsofter"]They are all good ideas but they still do nothing to solidify legal backing when we ban someone from public field games. The whole problem right now is we have this guy Ross who has been banned for multiple reasons. He has now decided to show up to our public field games ( and by that I mean games hosted on public land like NAM) and play anyways. Other members of his little clique have now stated they plan on doing the same thing if and when we call them on safety problems and the like.[/quote]

I respectfully disagree...

i agree with bizcuts. We are a legitimate group or orgnization. We should just file a maybe $50 permit with parks and rec for our events. Then we have full legal authority to remove ANYONE from our events.

My idea is based on the premises of a contract. If the person refuses to abide by the terms of the contract they aren't welcomed to be with the group. We can't keep them from being there or even having them playing by themselves. However, if they attempt to interfere, or become a nuiscance we have legal recourse.

man this is california a waiver really doesn't mean anything. It would only be valid if we were a registered event, hence my statement of registering our public land events with parks and rec

[quote="KaLTHRaX"]i agree with bizcuts. We are a legitimate group or orgnization. We should just file a maybe $50 permit with parks and rec for our events. Then we have full legal authority to remove ANYONE from our events.

It's not really a waiver as it's a signed agreement. The agreement would be between the hosting admin of the day and the player.

i don't understand why we would need a "written agreement". What would be the reason, anything anyone signs like that beside being filled with loop holes is not a "legal contract". So i am not sure what purpose it would server other then make people think they have to follow the rules, but i don't see how that would be any more effective then the rules we already have posted.

[quote="freq88"]It's not really a waiver as it's a signed agreement. The agreement would be between the hosting admin of the day and the player.

[quote="KaLTHRaX"]i don't understand why we would need a "written agreement". What would be the reason, anything anyone signs like that beside being filled with loop holes is not a "legal contract". So i am not sure what purpose it would server other then make people think they have to follow the rules, but i don't see how that would be any more effective then the rules we already have posted.[/quote]

[quote="freq88"][quote="KaLTHRaX"]i don't understand why we would need a "written agreement". What would be the reason, anything anyone signs like that beside being filled with loop holes is not a "legal contract". So i am not sure what purpose it would server other then make people think they have to follow the rules, but i don't see how that would be any more effective then the rules we already have posted.[/quote]