BizcuitsFeb 25, 2009 12:40am
If another admin deletes this, PM me afterwards.
Want a CCW? - Update 3-10-09
FaintFeb 25, 2009 1:06am
[quote="Tommyknocker2121"]Tommyknocker2121 supports this movement![/quote]
God save us everyone will be burning inside the fires of a thousand suns.
BizcuitsFeb 25, 2009 1:11am
You state you support it here, but have you taken 5-10 minutes to contact your local assemblyman and ask them to support it?
CAG_Talon_X13Mar 11, 2009 4:54am
If your current work or living situation requires your need to carry a handgun on your self for self protection than skip the paper work, Just carry it in plain view:
- Your only weapon is your brain, everything else is a tool.
AndrewN · Supreme ChancellorMar 11, 2009 5:00am
Open carry make you target #1. I'm all for exercising your rights, but f*ck that.
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FatbearMar 11, 2009 5:04am
Unless you're planning a revolution don't protest with a firearm.
fuddruckersMar 11, 2009 5:13am
[quote="Andrew"]Open carry make you target #1. I'm all for exercising your rights, but f*ck that.
StoneMar 11, 2009 5:14am
The California Supreme Court has identified three types of conflict that cause preemption of local legislation: A conflict exists if the local legislation duplicates, contradicts, or enters an area fully occupied by general law, either expressly or by legislative implication. Local legislation is contradictory to general law when it is inimical thereto. A local ordinance is preempted by a state statute only to the extent that the two conflict. Action Apartment Assn., Inc. v. City of Santa Monica, (2007) 41 Cal. 4th 1232. For a local ordinance to proscribe that which is allowed under State law would perforce be to contradict state law. Furthermore, given the extent of State regulation of dangerous weapons, it would seem apparent that the State has âfully occupiedâ this area by its general laws.
Gun control is not Crime control.
CAG_Talon_X13Mar 11, 2009 5:16am
Well, its still a right we do have here in Kalifornia.
- Your only weapon is your brain, everything else is a tool.
fuddruckersMar 11, 2009 5:17am
You got a pretty mouth boy. MMMMMM
AndrewN · Supreme ChancellorMar 11, 2009 5:20am
[quote="fuddruckers"]Carrying concealed makes it a hard job for ANYONE in LE, security or just plain life. It should be kept as SHALL ISSUE. However out of my thoughts on 1st amendment rights I will support this out of principle.[/quote]
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fuddruckersMar 11, 2009 5:38am
[quote="Andrew"][quote="fuddruckers"]Carrying concealed makes it a hard job for ANYONE in LE, security or just plain life. It should be kept as SHALL ISSUE. However out of my thoughts on 1st amendment rights I will support this out of principle.[/quote]
AndrewN · Supreme ChancellorMar 11, 2009 5:53am
Weather you will admit it or not, your idolized LE or security friends have taught you that gun = bad guy. That more guns equal more problems. Your solution is to govern the right of the people to carry a gun.
HeadOnTactical.com
fuddruckersMar 11, 2009 6:03am
[quote="Andrew"]Weather you will admit it or not, your idolized LE or security friends have taught you that gun = bad guy. That more guns equal more problems. Your solution is to govern the right of the people to carry a gun.
RcasMar 11, 2009 6:19am
I'd also say it won't... I'd much rather be a cop who pulls over someone with a CCW who is carrying than someone without a CCW who is carrying. Anytime a cop stops someone that person could have a firearm. Issuing more CCW permits won't make the world any more dangerous. If more CCW's are issued and those people know when they can use deadly force, in theory that makes the world a safer place methinks.
hairy_appleMar 11, 2009 6:46am
[quote="Andrew"]I'm calling tomorrow morning.[/quote]
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
JasMar 11, 2009 6:50am
But if it does get by them, who knows what might happen...
StoneMar 11, 2009 7:04am
[quote="fuddruckers"]Now I will support only out of my weird views for it just for the help to our 1st amendment rights.
Gun control is not Crime control.
BizcuitsMar 11, 2009 7:42am
[quote="fuddruckers"]Ok here is ONE example. You do a basic traffic stop. You approach the guy who has NO criminal record but just killed his wife, he also has a CCW. You approach and you realize him from the BOLO. Now your staring at a gun cause you messed up and now your life is dangling on a thread.[/quote]
AxeMar 11, 2009 1:48pm
[quote="Bizcuits"]I understand where your coming from. The whole more guns on the street will make things more dangerous. I hear it every dam day. Guess what? It's a BS California concept that holds no weight whatsoever outside of the newsroom. If you need proof, look at the 39 other states in this country.[/quote]
If you give to a charity please think of giving to one of these two charities. The Naval Special Warfare Foundation or Navy SEAL Warrior Fund.
BlainOMar 11, 2009 3:03pm
[quote="Axe"][quote="Bizcuits"]I understand where your coming from. The whole more guns on the street will make things more dangerous. I hear it every dam day. Guess what? It's a BS California concept that holds no weight whatsoever outside of the newsroom. If you need proof, look at the 39 other states in this country.[/quote]
Seek the Narrow Gate, for the path is broad and the gate is wide that leads to destruction.
hairy_appleMar 11, 2009 4:09pm
[quote="BlainO"]I want to be part of a polite well-aimed society. Get rid of assult - let us kick some ass, and the violence levels will drop when smart asses find out that they ARE vulnerable......F&&King Liberal PUKES. :shock:[/quote]
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
CAG_Talon_X13Mar 11, 2009 4:49pm
I've heard the same thing about people with CCW permits who have shot and killed someone in self-defense. Since they were using hollow-point bullets the law deemed that they were "looking to kill someone". Somthing to that extent.
- Your only weapon is your brain, everything else is a tool.
StoneMar 11, 2009 5:13pm
[quote="CAG_Talon_X13"]I've heard the same thing about people with CCW permits who have shot and killed someone in self-defense. Since they were using hollow-point bullets the law deemed that they were "looking to kill someone". Somthing to that extent.[/quote]
Gun control is not Crime control.