InfernoJun 17, 2009 8:01pm
I was reading my July issue of american rifleman and i found a story about how we can't defend ourselves, according to ABC's 20/20
Bravo Team
So apparently you can't defend yourself...
AMSJun 17, 2009 8:19pm
Was the media article Mr. Cox referring to 20/20's If I Only Had A Gun reported by Diane Sawyer and David Muir?
-Eugene
sirciferzJun 17, 2009 10:32pm
I read that article too. I want to see that original program now :?
AMSJun 17, 2009 11:16pm
[quote="sirciferz"]I read that article too. I want to see that original program now :?[/quote]
-Eugene
sirciferzJun 18, 2009 1:05am
I just watched it. I wish I hadn't.
fuddruckersJun 18, 2009 1:24am
Im slghtly confused as to what the test wants to prove, however this test was bad in the sense that the students in real life will have no idea that a shooter is coming to the room. If I reached for a weapon EVERYTIME somebody came into class I would be ummm a little more whako then the shooter. This test fails on both aspect. It doesnt back up either side. It just proves it is a bad test.
AndrewN · Supreme ChancellorJun 19, 2009 8:42am
[quote="fuddruckers"]Im slghtly confused as to what the test wants to prove, however this test was bad in the sense that the students in real life will have no idea that a shooter is coming to the room. If I reached for a weapon EVERYTIME somebody came into class I would be ummm a little more whako then the shooter. This test fails on both aspect. It doesnt back up either side. It just proves it is a bad test. [/quote]
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fuddruckersJun 19, 2009 7:08pm
[quote="Andrew"][quote="fuddruckers"]Im slghtly confused as to what the test wants to prove, however this test was bad in the sense that the students in real life will have no idea that a shooter is coming to the room. If I reached for a weapon EVERYTIME somebody came into class I would be ummm a little more whako then the shooter. This test fails on both aspect. It doesnt back up either side. It just proves it is a bad test. [/quote]
bdoggriceJun 19, 2009 11:10pm
The room that the test took was in a "horseshoe" shaped classroom. Am I correct when I say that the subjects were seated in the first row and at the center? I know you guys pointed out they knew where the subjects were seated, but I'm just adding proof to the subject.
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PINKFLAMINGOJun 20, 2009 2:44am
the test was a total faliure IMO for a plethera of reasons. One: the students participating have little or no real firearms expirience besides billy badass who shoots his airsoft gun all the time which as we all know isnt expirience at all. Two: the students are given maybe 1 or 2 hours max of mediocre firarms training not including active shooter training or any other advanced firarms training. Three: the students are given SLS(Self Locking System) "off duty" holster and given at most 10 to !5 mins to become a professional at the art of drawing a firearm from its death trap of a holster which anyone who has ever done stress shooting knows the simplest holster funtion becomes like trying to solve a rubics cube. Four: the students are placed in a class room full of people with (as already mentioned) baggy shirt to cover their firearm, seated in the most tactically unfavorable position in the whole room besides having your back to the door. and Five: pitting a very limited trained student against a Law Enforcement Firarms Instructor knowing where the armed students are seated with gun in hand and gun blazing as he enters is a hearty welcome for failure...
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