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Hmm for brute force I would go with american like my dads 55 chevy prostreet 1200 hp and a ton of torque enough to wheelie down the street for a ways and it is a real steel body! But for me the looks of an old Ferrai Boxer with 12 carbs one for each cylinder, is there better, yes sirree but that sound of those carbs....

[quote="poser"]Hmm for brute force I would go with american like my dads 55 chevy prostreet 1200 hp and a ton of torque enough to wheelie down the street for a ways and it is a real steel body! But for me the looks of an old Ferrai Boxer with 12 carbs one for each cylinder, is there better, yes sirree but that sound of those carbs....[/quote]

[quote="poser"]Hmm for brute force I would go with american like my dads 55 chevy prostreet 1200 hp and a ton of torque enough to wheelie down the street for a ways and it is a real steel body! But for me the looks of an old Ferrai Boxer with 12 carbs one for each cylinder, is there better, yes sirree but that sound of those carbs....[/quote]

[quote="K12azy13astard"]Import...

Gotta love them imports with the exhaust systems that make them sound like lawn mowers and wings that make them look like the shopping carts at Lowes or Home Depot.

[quote="poser"]But for me the looks of an old Ferrai Boxer with 12 carbs one for each cylinder, is there better, yes sirree but that sound of those carbs....[/quote]

I have me a 2000 Z28 with a LS1 5.7 V8 this one is stock cranking 300+ horse power my last one that I crashed was not stock and ran mid 11s all motor. it had 400+ hp this is why I wreked it. I have built a RX7 that will school anything I have seen yet on the street. It runs low 10s. However the RX7 is a rotery and a exeption to the rule of there is no replacement to displacement. and any one who says there is no technology in american built motors has not looked at a LS series motor.

whats with all the talk about quarter mile racing?

Thats what i was saying look back a few post...its all about tracking racing and auto crossing in my books. Just about anyone can make a car fast and drive it in a straight line, but it takes a real driver to make a car fast and be able to acutally drive it in a course...in my books that is skill.

While, I can appreciate, and love the classic muscle cars and hot rods I have to side with the imports. The Euros and Japanese are the leaders in automobile engineering, hands down. I grew up around 55-56-57 chevys, 31-32 Fords, Corvettes, all hot-rodded by my father, but for overall technology and engineering my WRX STI beats them all bone stock. I've owned several P-cars (Porsche for you push rod types) and the Subaru out-performs them as well. STI all the way.

[quote="Talon"]While, I can appreciate, and love the classic muscle cars and hot rods I have to side with the imports. The Euros and Japanese are the leaders in automobile engineering, hands down. I grew up around 55-56-57 chevys, 31-32 Fords, Corvettes, all hot-rodded by my father, but for overall technology and engineering my WRX STI beats them all bone stock. I've owned several P-cars (Porsche for you push rod types) and the Subaru out-performs them as well. STI all the way.[/quote]

yay, im getting a wrx! i cant wait to own along with all the other subi owners!

Imports and Domestics are engineered to do different things. Yea a muscle car can smoke an STi on a drag strip, so what? A STi could smoke a muscle car on a road track. Thats one of the reasons I love imports, they are built for real speed. Sure you can be quick on a drag strip but what good is all that power and torque if you cant get around a turn. Road raceing requires true tuning skill, you need a perfect balance between power, weight, suspension, and many other things to be fast on a road track. All you need for drag racing is a big engine, nitrous, and some fat tires.

an evo 8 and an sti will whoop anything anywhere anyday. so for me its a evo8 a sti and a suzuki hayabusa.

Rebuilt 94 Supra TT.

[quote="matt9074"]an evo 8 and an sti will whoop anything anywhere anyday. so for me its a evo8 a sti and a suzuki hayabusa.[/quote]

Yeah i have a 03 WRX with upgraded suspension, sway bars, strut, intake, exhaust, catty, downpipe, and tires; i roll with some buddies of mine up in Salmon Falls (its a windy road through some hills) and i absolutly smoke the mero through it because i can turn the corners a lot faster then he can. On the straight aways he catchs up but when we hit the turns again im gone. Im very confident with my car in any form of twisty but not always on a straight line becuase i know all too much can beat me on a straight line.

yeah an evo is good, but there are better.

For those who don't know. Most of the tracks, when doing two cars of different types ( GTO vs a Civic for example) they don't do who gets to the finish, but who can bet a pre-aragned time for them to beat.

american just for the power. Jpn are ok i guess. Besides who wants to drive the same car for 200 miles + anyway? :D

[quote="Andrew"][quote="matt9074"]an evo 8 and an sti will whoop anything anywhere anyday. so for me its a evo8 a sti and a suzuki hayabusa.[/quote]

Hey im all for new technology, but to say that imports are the only ones with it is just stupid. You can get racing computers for pretty much every car that is obg2 and newer, aka, newer mustangs camaros vets ect, they can all tweak different things with an onboard computer to get higher hp the same way an import can. However, even though modern american cars are on par with the technology of there asian contemporaries, i felt compelled to procure a more classic example of american enginerring. I picked up a 1965 mustang gt fastback with a bored up 289 with racing cam, and a holly 4 barrel double pumper, maeir racing suspension, power disc brakes alll around, five speed manual, ill take your suped up wrx anyday. But gimi a couple weeks i just got it and im modding it to look like a gt-350, o god just wait till i drop the windsor 351 in there, mwhahaha.

[quote="gun_nut"]Hey im all for new technology, but to say that imports are the only ones with it is just stupid. You can get racing computers for pretty much every car that is obg2 and newer...[/quote]

[quote="Mr.Reyes"]whats with all the talk about quarter mile racing?

[quote="Mr.Reyes"][quote="gun_nut"]Hey im all for new technology, but to say that imports are the only ones with it is just stupid. You can get racing computers for pretty much every car that is obg2 and newer...[/quote]

[quote="Mr.Reyes"][quote="gun_nut"]Hey im all for new technology, but to say that imports are the only ones with it is just stupid. You can get racing computers for pretty much every car that is obg2 and newer...[/quote]

On Board Diagnostic 2 thats what I thought it stood for. But who knows I might be stupid. But the statement about new technology being in american motors I would say is true and the LS series motors and northstar motors are a testament to that. Damn I want a 3 rotor.........

[quote="Andrew"][quote="Mr.Reyes"][quote="gun_nut"]Hey im all for new technology, but to say that imports are the only ones with it is just stupid. You can get racing computers for pretty much every car that is obg2 and newer...[/quote]

[quote="FerrariModena"][quote="Mr.Reyes"][quote="gun_nut"]Hey im all for new technology, but to say that imports are the only ones with it is just stupid. You can get racing computers for pretty much every car that is obg2 and newer...[/quote]

Uhh, whoops on the mispelling ob"D"2, what i meant to say is that there are aftermarket computer components for most cars (including american cars) with obd2 systems and newer that allow you to tweak the preformance of the motor to increase horse power or to get better gas efficency. Btw who ever told you the obd system was only used for emissions? Jeese there planning on having the newest obd systems have a remote kill switch that can be flipped via satelite, i guese in case someones in a police chase or something and they want to end it bloodlessly. However, your right, the newer rotary engines that import companies have developed do offer some marked advantages to a standard 4 stroke piston cyliner ice. For one the energy is allready circular and dosent have to be distributed to a cam shaft and then to a transmission, so you dont lose as much energy and torque that way. Also, with the advent of better composites to replace worn rotary component seals the technology has become more dependable. Also, they arent the terrible poluters that they once were as the result of better emmsions systems. However, i for one like the classic deep throaty rumble of an american built v8 and im willing to spend the extra money on gas to have it. I just cant stand the sound of an import with one of those stupid exhaust kits.