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[quote="rapidfox888"]Now is that enough evidence that your theory could be wrong? The enemy player was indeed relitively stationary as he was coming through the door when the player filming first started firing.[/quote]

My main point to all my whining. Is for people to stop whining :lol: about cheating when most of the so called cheating cannot be verified but rather assumed.

[quote="nightblade117"][quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"]I guess I am not sold on the video being proof of cheating as much as an issue with refing.It doesn't look like a definative example of cheating to me in that case.

[quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"][quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"]I guess I am not sold on the video being proof of cheating as much as an issue with refing.It doesn't look like a definative example of cheating to me in that case.

Kal, we brought it up immediately. At no time they did not state shooting a ref calls for being pulled from the game. By the end of the game we were told by beer man to stick around because there is suspicion the teams are shooting over 400fps and if so would call for disqualification. A member of headhunters was found with an FN2000 shooting 416fps which has the ability to adjust the fps. They also had gbb TMP's. What is messed up is when they went to chrono the gbb smg's and pistols they had them expel all the gas then refill causing a cool down effect. By noon it was hot out and we all know that if you leave a mag in the sun it could increase the fps drastically. Being that by the time they re chronod it was around 2pm.

I had fun at the tounrey.

[quote="Andrew"]I had fun at the tounrey.[/quote]

[quote="rapidfox888"]Kal, we brought it up immediately. At no time they did not state shooting a ref calls for being pulled from the game. By the end of the game we were told by beer man to stick around because there is suspicion the teams are shooting over 400fps and if so would call for disqualification. A member of headhunters was found with an FN2000 shooting 416fps which has the ability to adjust the fps. They also had gbb TMP's. What is messed up is when they went to chrono the gbb smg's and pistols they had them expel all the gas then refill causing a cool down effect. By noon it was hot out and we all know that if you leave a mag in the sun it could increase the fps drastically. Being that by the time they re chronod it was around 2pm.[/quote]

yeap

[quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"][quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"]I guess I am not sold on the video being proof of cheating as much as an issue with refing.It doesn't look like a definative example of cheating to me in that case.

[quote="Dagger_X11"]How do these guys continue to be allowed to play here? W ? T ? F ?

Accident or Intenational cheating?

[quote="AgentOrange"]Accident or Intenational cheating?

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[quote="Monksidious"][quote="KaLTHRaX"]

[quote="Monksidious"][quote="KaLTHRaX"]

"I agree when you know that "cold" your gun chronos at 398 you KNOW that when it gets warm it will chrono higher! that has got to be the lamest excuse that I have ever heard "hey when they chronoed the gun in the morning it was legal!" really what is the point of trying to run a gun that shoots that hard? you are just TRYING to hurt people at that point! This is a game all about honor and if you are taking advantage of a loophole like that just to get your gun to pass then it is no different than someone not calling their hits you are cheating and need to be removed from the field!

Had a blast today.

[quote="Mike_X12"]Had a blast today.[/quote]

[quote="KaLTHRaX"][quote="Mike_X12"]Had a blast today.[/quote]

Hi Kalthrax,

phu if you followed the points as i stated them then more power to you and more teams should act accordingly. running a tournament is not ever a perfect or smooth thing. calls and descions are made on the fly to keep it moving and while we might kick our own ass after the fact sometimes we make snap judgements for the sake of not making a 5 min game last 5 hours. i understand your points 100%, but we are human and we make mistakes. i wasnt there and i wasnt involved at the tournament, thats why i aksed if you did those things, cuase thats how you handle grivences at the tournament level. But i agree with you as far as consistancy goes, i myself have never hurd of a "if you shoot the ref your out rule" but i also do not knwo if that is posted in thier regular rule sets or not.

[quote="dlong88"][quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"][quote="rapidfox888"][quote="nightblade117"]I guess I am not sold on the video being proof of cheating as much as an issue with refing.It doesn't look like a definative example of cheating to me in that case.

[quote="KaLTHRaX"]phu if you followed the points as i stated them then more power to you and more teams should act accordingly. running a tournament is not ever a perfect or smooth thing. calls and descions are made on the fly to keep it moving and while we might kick our own ass after the fact sometimes we make snap judgements for the sake of not making a 5 min game last 5 hours. i understand your points 100%, but we are human and we make mistakes. i wasnt there and i wasnt involved at the tournament, thats why i aksed if you did those things, cuase thats how you handle grivences at the tournament level. But i agree with you as far as consistancy goes, i myself have never hurd of a "if you shoot the ref your out rule" but i also do not knwo if that is posted in thier regular rule sets or not.

[quote="tiny41"]Yes we know its not perfect every time but when the gun is shooting consistently over 400 that is a problem. Our team captain and many others were in the room when they chrono'ed the guns. What is the point of having strict fps limit if that is not going to be enforced?[/quote]

[quote="dlong88"][quote="Dev."]after 3 months of not having the time or funds to drive out and play here I was able to make it out last night on a beginners night. Only reason I went out on this specific night was because Gabe had some family in town and they had never airsofted before.

This thread = Most drama ive ever seen...

[quote="Andrew"][quote="tiny41"]Yes we know its not perfect every time but when the gun is shooting consistently over 400 that is a problem. Our team captain and many others were in the room when they chrono'ed the guns. What is the point of having strict fps limit if that is not going to be enforced?[/quote]

[quote="Sniperman"]This thread = Most drama ive ever seen...

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