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at 38 speaking of pistol whipping people, looks like he's ready to give it a shot on monk.

[quote="Erin"]How anyone that's ever stood next to craig would want to throw down with him is beyond me. The guys my size and is a carpenter.

something was recently brought to my attention and I want to make a serious point here

[quote="Dev."]something was recently brought to my attention and I want to make a serious point here

[quote="thatuglyguy"]at :38 speaking of pistol whipping people, looks like he's ready to give it a shot on monk.

[quote="Dev."]

I will follow on the boycott of the galt field. that is total bs. the more i watch the video the more it screams that m4h should be banned for life from the sport of airsoft altogether.

[quote="snipershot"]I will follow on the boycott of the galt field. that is total bs. the more i watch the video the more it screams that m4h should be banned for life from the sport of airsoft altogether.[/quote]

The point here is not to Boycott Galt. It is to beware of your surroundings and where you are playing.

I'll mostly agree with the points of not bringing hate and discontent down on the staff. But there have been some players that also got to ref that were as useless and crooked as the worst players out there. I'd name names, but frankly I don't remember them. The older gent and his son that always handled the clubhouse, grill, and liked to walk around telling people to take the magazines out of their guns. One day his son shows me a training knife he and his dad made...thing looked like a wavy bladed prison shive wrapped in masking tape with edges that looked like they'd been smoothed with a band saw. I had to outright tell him, "Do not pull that on me or any of my friends, this is a warning."

[quote="Erin"]

I just watched the vid, and to the video recorder, you were given the grace of a bang kill which you then disregarded and shot the m4h person, who could have shot you first but felt like it was too close.

just to clarify something for hindsight

The 'bang kill' though didn't completely follow the rules. He was completely correct in not taking it, even though he could. Did you watch the whole video though? The second guy said he shot them to diffuse the situation. That was the only reason he had for shooting.

oh and one more thing it doesnt matter how he felt or how i would feel about the situation. feelings do NOT give someon the right to break the law.

Lets clear up the bang kill right now.

Could you please submit that post in outline form with a Venn diagram.

[quote="cpairsofter"]Could you please submit that post in outline form with a Venn diagram.

Either way, there's NO EXCUSE for shooting because of the stated reasons.

[quote="HiND-SIGHT"]I just watched the vid, and to the video recorder, you were given the grace of a bang kill which you then disregarded and shot the m4h person, who could have shot you first but felt like it was too close.

The second M4H guy gave multiple reasons for shooting the recorder. To break it up was one of about 4 reasons. Before he said that he "shot to break them up" he said "he wasn't sure if he was in the game or not" I have been in many instances where a person was talking to a ref, ether hiding behind them or not, and asked if he was in the game, only to be shot by the loiterer. That's fair. If a person is inside of an airsoft game and complaining of being shot, what that tells me is he has no responsibility. He woke up, went to an airsoft game where it is an expected occurrence to be shot, and knowing that accidents happen, and complains of 6 bbs? If a person gets really angry that he's been shot and starts a little campaign to "get even" I would ban him. I've been shot plenty of ways that I don't care for at galt, and at the end of the day it's me that put myself into a position where I was able to be shot. There's been times where I was shot with rifles inside of 15' and maybe didn't like that person, but I always prefer to keep my cool than start an agenda. 9 out of 9 times the opponent is a cool guy, didn't realize he was close, and that's ok. That it's M4H is no excuse to bash either, as I have played against them and with them before and have seen good judgement calls by them that surpass even younger SAS members ( older SAS play very well recently and I have tolerance for younger ones)

So...by your logic if somebody is knocked down say, in a boxing match, it's perfectly ok for the guy that knocked him out to just keep kicking and punching his body? I mean...after all he went to this match expecting to get punched and kicked so he shouldn't complain if that happens after he is knocked out and the match is over.

dude are you kidding me

THE GUY STATED HE DID IT TO BREAK UP THE ARGUMENT. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND HE ACTED LIKE A COMPLETE TOOL. Stop trying to defend these losers, its not a coincidence they have been banned from one private field and banned from sacair games. THERE WHOLE TEAM HAS BEEN BANNED TWICE, does that not register with you?

Do you seriously think somehow you are going to turn this guys opinion or just typing just to see your ideas on screen? I'm doing the later currently and its wonderful.

[quote="cpairsofter"]Do you seriously think somehow you are going to turn this guys opinion or just typing just to see your ideas on screen? I'm doing the later currently and its wonderful.[/quote]

[quote="HiND-SIGHT"]The second M4H guy gave multiple reasons for shooting the recorder. To break it up was one of about 4 reasons. Before he said that he "shot to break them up" he said "he wasn't sure if he was in the game or not" I have been in many instances where a person was talking to a ref, ether hiding behind them or not, and asked if he was in the game, only to be shot by the loiterer. That's fair. If a person is inside of an airsoft game and complaining of being shot, what that tells me is he has no responsibility. He woke up, went to an airsoft game where it is an expected occurrence to be shot, and knowing that accidents happen, and complains of 6 bbs? If a person gets really angry that he's been shot and starts a little campaign to "get even" I would ban him. I've been shot plenty of ways that I don't care for at galt, and at the end of the day it's me that put myself into a position where I was able to be shot. There's been times where I was shot with rifles inside of 15' and maybe didn't like that person, but I always prefer to keep my cool than start an agenda. 9 out of 9 times the opponent is a cool guy, didn't realize he was close, and that's ok. That it's M4H is no excuse to bash either, as I have played against them and with them before and have seen good judgement calls by them that surpass even younger SAS members ( older SAS play very well recently and I have tolerance for younger ones)

[quote="HiND-SIGHT"]The second M4H guy gave multiple reasons for shooting the recorder. To break it up was one of about 4 reasons. Before he said that he "shot to break them up" he said "he wasn't sure if he was in the game or not" I have been in many instances where a person was talking to a ref, ether hiding behind them or not, and asked if he was in the game, only to be shot by the loiterer. That's fair. If a person is inside of an airsoft game and complaining of being shot, what that tells me is he has no responsibility. He woke up, went to an airsoft game where it is an expected occurrence to be shot, and knowing that accidents happen, and complains of 6 bbs? If a person gets really angry that he's been shot and starts a little campaign to "get even" I would ban him. I've been shot plenty of ways that I don't care for at galt, and at the end of the day it's me that put myself into a position where I was able to be shot. There's been times where I was shot with rifles inside of 15' and maybe didn't like that person, but I always prefer to keep my cool than start an agenda. 9 out of 9 times the opponent is a cool guy, didn't realize he was close, and that's ok. That it's M4H is no excuse to bash either, as I have played against them and with them before and have seen good judgement calls by them that surpass even younger SAS members ( older SAS play very well recently and I have tolerance for younger ones)

[quote="HiND-SIGHT"]The second M4H guy gave multiple reasons for shooting the recorder. To break it up was one of about 4 reasons. Before he said that he "shot to break them up" he said "he wasn't sure if he was in the game or not" I have been in many instances where a person was talking to a ref, ether hiding behind them or not, and asked if he was in the game, only to be shot by the loiterer. That's fair. If a person is inside of an airsoft game and complaining of being shot, what that tells me is he has no responsibility. He woke up, went to an airsoft game where it is an expected occurrence to be shot, and knowing that accidents happen, and complains of 6 bbs? If a person gets really angry that he's been shot and starts a little campaign to "get even" I would ban him. I've been shot plenty of ways that I don't care for at galt, and at the end of the day it's me that put myself into a position where I was able to be shot. There's been times where I was shot with rifles inside of 15' and maybe didn't like that person, but I always prefer to keep my cool than start an agenda. 9 out of 9 times the opponent is a cool guy, didn't realize he was close, and that's ok. That it's M4H is no excuse to bash either, as I have played against them and with them before and have seen good judgement calls by them that surpass even younger SAS members ( older SAS play very well recently and I have tolerance for younger ones)

I also have played with and against m4h and would never and will never try to justify their actions. I for one feel that their bad actions have always far out weighed their good ones. They constantly use bbs that have been banned from every field in California and when confronted about it they just say whatever and pack their shit and leave. I have personally suffered bodily harm from them without even a simple I'm sorry from the offender just a "whatever dude I dont care its part of the game."