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hell yeah

Do what you are told, or else. Funny that people think they can just do what ever they feel like doing when a police officer wants you to do what he or she wants. RESPECT THE LAW! they put their lives on the line for us 24/7. Darwin winner! To be honest, he should of just dumped a clip in the b i t c h, then I wouldn't have to hear her cry for 5 minutes.

That wasnt crying, that was moaning. She liked it!

I don't know, now-a-days we live in a society where people like to impersonate people/public officials to get their way as in rape, etc. I would be hesitant also to just get out of my car. I really didn't see the beginning of the whole incident so it's hard to say whether or not it was necessary for her to get pulled out of her car. Wait, I did hear the reason and maybe if they also said from the beginning, you have a suspended license please step out of the car. You should really tell people why you are asking them to do something. That's like me coming to you house and saying, get out of your house, wouldn't you think, for why? Maybe if you give me a reason, I would do it.

I was unable to get any picture on my Quicktime, but I had enough audio to determine that she was an absolute disrespectful moron.

I think she got what she had coming to her.

[quote="RsyndcateDJ"]I don't know, now-a-days we live in a society where people like to impersonate people/public officials to get their way as in rape, etc. I would be hesitant also to just get out of my car. I really didn't see the beginning of the whole incident so it's hard to say whether or not it was necessary for her to get pulled out of her car. Wait, I did hear the reason and maybe if they also said from the beginning, you have a suspended license please step out of the car. You should really tell people why you are asking them to do something. That's like me coming to you house and saying, get out of your house, wouldn't you think, for why? Maybe if you give me a reason, I would do it.[/quote]

The lady had fair warning what would happen both times, i say she deserved it. That definatly wasn't excessive...i tossed a guy out of the bar that i work at and as he was on the ground with a cop on top of him he kept fighting even when three cops came to handcuff him and he got tazed 4 times with no warning from the cops save a "taze him" from one of them. Its definatly an interesting sight to see.

He never gave her a reason, he just said could you please step out of the vehicle for me, that's it.

i didnt see to much of a point for it but at the same time there was BTU WHO CARES! she was anoying as hell about it. i would have gagged her to shut her up. :D

People who know me, know my stance on law enforcement.. my opinion is the same on this...

[quote="RsyndcateDJ"]I don't know, now-a-days we live in a society where people like to impersonate people/public officials to get their way as in rape, etc. I would be hesitant also to just get out of my car. I really didn't see the beginning of the whole incident so it's hard to say whether or not it was necessary for her to get pulled out of her car. Wait, I did hear the reason and maybe if they also said from the beginning, you have a suspended license please step out of the car. You should really tell people why you are asking them to do something. That's like me coming to you house and saying, get out of your house, wouldn't you think, for why? Maybe if you give me a reason, I would do it.[/quote]

hahaha

Did anyone see the lady who refused to signed a ticket thinking she could get out of it by not doing so. Dumb ass, she was hauled off to jail too. I have a lot of respect for lawenforcement in general. I agree with all who said she should have repectfully gotten out of her car and accepted the ticket. SHE in effect tassed herself by being beligerent and not obeying the requests of the officers. I know this is an odd way to look at this situation but she needs to accept responsibility for her own stupid actions. Not many people willing to take responsibility today, too easy to blame it on someone else....

I believe she was given ample warning to get out of the car. She was just ignoring the peace officer when he asked her to get out of the car. If she wanted a witness, she could have simply kept the phone on for other other side to listen in on. Then the lady and officer would have been able to have a conversation and find out what needs to be done. Instead, she ignored the officer and continued to talk on the phone.

Jesus Christ!!!

Cops don't become cops to stay out of trouble, they become cops because they like to boss people around, and deal with this crap. making the excuses for them doesn't make them better human beings.

Scary thing is now police do not have to tell you why they are arresting you. They can pull you from your car, tase you, mace you, cuff you, toss you in the car and you'll find out why hours later. :evil:

Have many of you watched all four of the clips surrounding the matter? Because, I'm sure the officer had given her fair warning about getting outisde of the car, and a very good explanation why she was getting pulled over (at least two or three times regarding speeding, and another explanation pointing at no seatbelt, broken window, and burned out tail light). She was asked to get outside of the car due to a suspended license, btw.

And the officers were not in a patrol car, they were in an unmarked yellow Mustang. Watch the other clips. Clears a lot up.

This is a situation that created a "mess". This mess was NOT the fault of the officer/s (still don't have quicktime fixed). This mess was created by the woman out right refusing to obey the officer's orders. And yes, I said OBEY. No matter the political side you're on, it is still the police that have the power and authority to detain you for whatever reason they deam fit. This is an example of why you cooperate with them. They are human, therefore they have emotions such as fear and anger. They most likely fear being killed on duty. They get angry. Trained, seasoned vets are still angry even when they control their anger. The whole thing is to do a simple thing called cooperate. Cooperation is what may get you out of a speeding ticket. Not cooperating will make them angry and WILL cause them to use force. Not cooperating gives them grounds to fear for there life. Has a cop been killed because their killers cooperated? Of course not. Who's to say that the officers wouldn't have let her off with a stern warning?

Deserve it? Hell yes

Okay, Okay, stoopid me didn't know there were 4 videos to watch. When I clicked on the link, that's what I did and watched what came up on the screen. Well, after watching all the videos, it still doesn't change my mind about what happend, all it really did was agree with the rest of you that she deserved what she had coming to her. But... like I said, since the car was an un-marked yellow mustang, that just shows (maybe in another person's case) how scary it is for a person to get out of the car with a lot of impersonators lurking about. Did she deserve what she got, yes, did they use excessive force, yes. Just like Kahn, I have to agree with him. I've had cops pull me over for no reason just cause my car is an import, with exhaust, etc., etc. Some cops because they can "assume" or "in their opinion" think they can pull whoever they want and whenever.

I think the officer was totally in line with his actions. What was he supposed to do, reach into the car and grab her? For all he knows she could have had a knife or gun and the whole cell phone thing could have just been a ploy. There is an escalation of force in law enforcement and tazing her comes before decking her in the face with his night stick or shooting her with his gun. A tazer doesn't do any permanent damage. Had he physically tried to pull her out he could have. He gave her ample opportunity to comply with his orders.

I think he should have said, "step out of the car, your license is suspended" first.

lol or you can just cooperate and sue the police if they wrongfully charge you instead of try to sue them after you were a fuken ashole.

[quote="attlie53"]I think he should have said, "step out of the car, your license is suspended" first.[/quote]

right-o chap

Reasonable force/Unnecessary force is governed by each department’s policies and procedures. Less than lethal option and lethal options are also dictated by policy. How you use your options-"discretion". If an officer gives a lawful order, you must obey. Refusing to obey is considered resisting. Moves us to a use of force option- any force necessary to overcome resistance or the required force to effect an arrest. Everyone is entitled to there opinion, but if you are face with a certain situation, the fight or flight mentality will kick in. Simple routine traffic stops have turned into deadly encounters in a split second. The lady could have turned it into a high-speed pursuit and innocent lives could have been lost. You don't know and you will always look back and think what could I have done differently. One thing that is on the mind of the officers is, "Will go home tonight?"