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Incorrect facts...up 100% lol

ignorance is strength

all i have to say is, go out and read about whats happening dont listen to your family or the news because they tend to lean to one party or the other. and from what you read make your own deductions. especally with family members, they tend to be very repulblcan or democrat. i kno my family is....

I turned my family into Micheal Savage lovin Rebublicans. If its true that with age you get more and more Rebublican or Democrat, I dont know what im going to do in say ten years. Im already past the right wing. I guess thats when me and Jimmy raise a militia and declare Total War on Democrats.

[quote="ukau"][quote="Kahn"]. and the voters have proved by a gap of over 50million voters in 2004 that the left needs to get there act together and start offering solutions and stop bitching or they will see a larger gap in 2008. [/quote]

i listen to michael savage every day. he kicks ass. especially bill o reiley, not too goo of friends but eh... michael PWNS!

You know what Im not done yet Im actualy fairly pissed at you dude. You dont get into a debate and then edit your post after its responded to becuase you jacked up. you leave and you stand and take fire. I will no longer debate with you becuase you have proven to me to know nothing more than what you read in the paper and see on CNN. I am sorry that you fell into the trap of doing what they do.

THIS IS WHAT YOU ORIGINALY WROTE

lol fine il get in here..

[quote="Kahn"][quote="ukau"][quote="Kahn"]. and the voters have proved by a gap of over 50million voters in 2004 that the left needs to get there act together and start offering solutions and stop bitching or they will see a larger gap in 2008. [/quote]

ow that you mention I did. Ican admitt when Im wrong. So i guess Im better than you. However just imagine if each district got cast its electoral vote alone and not buy state. Even buy your own numbers the gap that bush beat kerry was greater than that of what he beat gore. that speaks for its self. Now notice I will not edit my post even though I made an error. But hten again Im not like you.

1st of all the edit I made went more into depth about what I believe, instead of just calling you out. If you think that is covering up, I guess so.

Dude hers the problem. with every debate we have been in all you have ever been able to do is attack me or people in the republican party. upuntill the part where I didnt read somthing right but posted it anyhow. you have pointed nothing out. you have onlny went the way of your party attack attack attack and have no solution. You edited your post why cuase it made more sense. Then why did you leave out the whole point of it and then attack my anoogy like it made no sense (with out your post it did look random) thats why you did it.

I just dont know how I am flirting with danger. ALL I try to do is prove my point and back it up. Thats all. When I see people who use wrong info, guess what I call them out. I understand that we have diffreent views and love that. All im trying to do is have you elaborate on what you say because all I ever see you post is "liberals have no answers" I have never seen you post what you feel the admin. is doint right (god forbid wrong) or what "facts" back up why you feel the admin. is doing well. I am looking for a good debate, thats all not just pot shots at each other. As you can see in my previous post I put down why I disapprove of the admin and why supported by facts. Now if you want to debate, argue my facts. If you dont we can squash it...no biggie.

I have said I dont like bushes border policy and I think hes to much of a centerisrt.

Regarding Saddam and Iraq, they found no WMDs and have said he also DID NOT have the means/capacity to produce them. Although the initial intel reports did say he was willing and able to create such weapons which is what Bush used as a reason. Now if he just got the reports or pushed to create them is up for debate.

I wrote to my friend mike murphy who is running for state senate. for the libitarian party. He disagrees with republicans and democrats. however he knows alot about polotics. He is the most qulified by partison person I can think of to answer the question "what is the diffrence between republicans and democrats?" hes gonna write it Im gonna post it excatly how he writes it. I will argue this point no further becuase its not doing anyhting but making two people hate eachother and further dividing the country.

Trust me man I dont hate you. I would never take it that far, and I hope you wouldnt either. OUT

[quote="ukau"]Regarding Saddam and Iraq, they found no WMDs and have said he also DID NOT have the means/capacity to produce them. Although the initial intel reports did say he was willing and able to create such weapons which is what Bush used as a reason. Now if he just got the reports or pushed to create them is up for debate.

Sorry I had to write that

Its all good. Im just going by what I have read/seen but if you say you have personally seen otherwise, then I have to give you the benefit of the doubt. We are just going to see what the future holds.

[quote="CPairsofter"]... no (one) has the balls so we get stuck in between National Socialism and a functional compromise biased system, which basically gets us nowhere fast. Small victories for the extremist parties here and there (Bush election, Watergate…ext) and they love that. All the while the greater good of the citizen dies on the vine….both liberal and conservative politicians are guilty of wasting our time and resources hating each other. Extremists of any party are the true enemy of the democratic system in my opinion.. Party politics are a waste of time to me[/quote]

Ok ok i think its time to post this to lighten the mood and since the usuall suspects haven't i will :D

One thing I agree with is the right to die. I choose not to live as a vegetable for the rest of my life and it should be my right to make that decision and not the courts. The Schavio case; if she really wanted to die then let it happen, but if the guy wanted the money that is just sickening. I thought the way she died was just cruel. Give her so much morphine that it kills her, not starve her to death. In WWll they gave 1 morphine shot for the pain 2 to put the person in shock 3 to kill him and it was humane. When my Grandfather died they basically did just that with the morphine. they layed a button, that fed the morphine into his body across his chest. He was in a coma so he couldnt push it but my grandmother could. What im basically trying to say is why could you do it with my grandfather but not Terri Schavio.

[quote="Mr.Reyes"][quote="CPairsofter"]... no (one) has the balls so we get stuck in between National Socialism and a functional compromise biased system, which basically gets us nowhere fast. Small victories for the extremist parties here and there (Bush election, Watergate…ext) and they love that. All the while the greater good of the citizen dies on the vine….both liberal and conservative politicians are guilty of wasting our time and resources hating each other. Extremists of any party are the true enemy of the democratic system in my opinion.. Party politics are a waste of time to me[/quote]

lets try a new topic:

gun control is more about the second word than the first....

The funny thing is that I know most of you guys and I know that you would get along beautifully in person. It's interesting to see you focus on your differences instead of your similarities on here...

The problem with the 2nd amendment is that it has to be interpreted. First of all it does not say anyone can have a gun it says "militias". Now from what I would interpret I bet they meant an "organized group" of fighters not billybob in his trailer. Does anyone belong to a militia here?Throughout history the courts have defined this as any citizen which has lead us to where we are now. Now I feel that citizens should have the right to own guns but I feel that my next door neighboor should not be able to own ANY firearm he wants just because he thinks he has a right due to our constitution which is vauge at best.