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Sweet Valley High Syndrome .... when someone tip toes around a subject, tries to hard to be PC, or is afraid of how others will view them if they say what they really have on their mind. Its contagious, and its present right here within our own Sac Air. All these posts lately being vague, not calling out the person you want to sling mud at, or the team, or the game, or the rules. Why is everyone so worried about stepping on toes?? Thats more then half the problem that a bunch of grown men are afraid to say what they really feel about the way things have been going down. The bang kill issue, the not calling hits, the fps, the teams, attitudes, admins only posting games, Ive seen so many of you reply all friendly and aggreable and in person there is so much shit talk and nay saying. This is the behavior of highschool girls...hence "Sweet Valley High Syndrome"

you shouldn't you have the right to an opinion

Things get said, taken out of context, feelings hurt and the next thing you know, you got a useless thread where children (or adults acting like children) are using the thread for useless flame wars. Some things and opinions are best said or relayed face to face.

Even when you try to meet face to face to work out whatever problems someone may have they wont instead they put something rude uncalled for and not factually based under your name and prevent you from sending pm's it is very childish and lame, true I have had several logon ids on here and they get deleted cause I rubbed one person the wrong way then everyone makes it their business and now I am listed as a liar and dishonest, I would love to particpate in a sac-air event but it isn't always convenient for me, someday I hope to host a huge game with upwards of 100- 200 players but now I have been banned from being at any sac-air events and no one here even knows me enough to say that I am a bad person or am not sportsman like, I have been nothing but nice to all members here instead I have an issue with one other member of which is all worked out and good but I then get banned, not very admin and role model like

I don't see the problem that your talking about since it seems like your suffering from the valley syndrome as well.

[quote="foothill_airsofter"]Even when you try to meet face to face to work out whatever problems someone may have they wont instead they put something rude uncalled for and not factually based under your name and prevent you from sending pm's it is very childish and lame, true I have had several logon ids on here and they get deleted cause I rubbed one person the wrong way then everyone makes it their business and now I am listed as a liar and dishonest, I would love to particpate in a sac-air event but it isn't always convenient for me, someday I hope to host a huge game with upwards of 100- 200 players but now I have been banned from being at any sac-air events and no one here even knows me enough to say that I am a bad person or am not sportsman like, I have been nothing but nice to all members here instead I have an issue with one other member of which is all worked out and good but I then get banned, not very admin and role model like[/quote]

To see the problem ... you'd have to participate

Incidents? you pluralize something that has never happened, the situation was fixed both parties left happy, there is no incident let all multiple ones, kermit I would reply but I cant pm anyone thats was a "privelage" that was taken away, but my name is Joshua Varozza I live in latrobe just outside of El Dorado Hills, I live on a ranch of 600+ acres and just wanna have fun playing airsoft, I have been married for almost three years and we have a really cool 2 year old boy I just got my first puppy (pure breed great dane) and work for AAA in placerville, but as far as I know the person to dislike me the most here is Picoy oh and cpairsofter is always trying to start chit with me for no reason

so... i have to be part of the problem or i have to play airsoft.....i still don't understand.

Ok, I am a newb here, low posts.. all that. BUT, here is my opinion.

So is that it this is were it ends no explanation? I dont need tip toeing I am a big boy if there is something you want to bring to my attention please do other wise Bordicon I think it appropriate you change my title and allow me to pm thanks

i believe the reference to a pissing match sums this up quite nicely actually. My only problem is i can't tell who its between i see people posting about admins i see people posting about others behavior etc. It's either so simple it escapes me or its so ridiculus that these arguments shouldn't be happening in the first place. As far as varozza goes i believe the terminology admin abuse sums it up nicely there is nothing saying you can't be a post whore depite how annoying it is, just as theres nothing saying you can't voice your opinion etc (i can list lots of different actions but i believe everyone gest the point). Granted i can obviously be wrong as i don't know the full details of the situation there. However in my mind unless someone does something completely ridiculus or uncalled for such as bringing a famas to the cqb field then it doesn't warrant excessive abuse or reprimanding. But enough on that topic, as i think it's a seperate issue that should be taken up between varozza and whichever admin messed with him (take it up via pm). Bang Kills.....now that topic is so stupid it's funny. But my personal opinion bang kills should be optional and everyone should be made clearly aware of when a bang kill is appropriate. My reasoning is simple they should be optional because not everyone wants to do them, and secondly because not everyone will you may say if your within 5ft you must bang kill someone but everyone knows it doesn't always happen that way theres always exceptions like you startle someone and they pull the trigger out of reflex or some jackass who just doesn't want to do it period. If bang kills must exist everyone must be made aware of when there appropriate stick your gun barrel through a glory hole waving it around doesn't count as a bang, in my mind a bang kill is when someone has a clear indisputable shot (and a loaded gun to boot) within a certain engagement zone that is deemed "to close" and no chance of the other person being able to shoot them without being shot first. Last point ill mention mainly because if i don't someones gonna post up saying but what about saftey...pretty simple if you don't have bang kills and everyone acknowledges that they can be shot point blank with a pistol then no ones liable since no one owns the property etc etc if you do have bang kills great you save some people the pain of taking one real close either way matters little to me personally but it's something to think on a little pain for convience?? or possible arguemnts of i banged you first etc and additional saftey....both ways have there trade offs. I can ramble on about this subject as well but i figure ill let everyone else fill in the blanks....

Point blank. I'm tired of all the bull$hit. It's like a bunch of women bickering at each other. I don't understand why there has to be so much of this stupid crap every few months or so. I can tell everyone right now what is going to happen. In a couple of weeks, a bunch of players will go away (some forever, some just for a bit) everything will settle down with no real solution being found. A few months from now there will be a new influx of players. The same exact thing will happen once again.

Wow, I'll just keep out of this one.