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M4A1 question

Sep 14, 2003 9:30pm
Does a silencer add to the length of the barrel, thus improving range? That is what I have heard but am not sure. Also I have decided on an m4a1 vs an m16a2 but what can I do to get MAXIMUM range out of it, under like 200bucks.
Sep 14, 2003 9:47pm
from what I've read inner barrel length is going to be the main factor of range increases. if you get a really long inner barrel (might as well get a tn tightbore to increase accuracy while you're at it...50 bucks installed) you're going to up your range. As for a silencer...I'm not quite sure about that. One thing is for sure though, if you get an innerbarrel that is longer than your given gun, you can cover it up with a silencer and that would then definitely increase range. You can prolly also get some fps increase for some marginal increase in range and also use .2 bbs instead of .25. But range is prolly only an issue if you have a sniper rifle. With an aeg, you have rof to compensate for any range problems. Snipers need range cause they only got single shot...plus if you can't aim well, range isn't gonna help a whole lot.
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Sep 14, 2003 9:59pm
One thing is for sure though, if you get an innerbarrel that is longer than your given gun, you can cover it up with a silencer and that would then definitely increase range.
Sep 14, 2003 10:02pm
barrel length is not the main factor in increasing range...
Sep 14, 2003 10:10pm
Get a systema tight bore barrel. you dont need a fancy KN barrel. Systema does the exact same thing. If your getting a m4a1 legth barrel, your good to go. If you get a m16 lenght barrel then you will also need a type-0 cylinder to match it. Other wise, the cylinder currently in the m4 will not have enough air to fill the barrel which will actually give you less FPS. Silencers do not add the the lenght of the barrel... a longer barrel adds to the length of the barrel *wow* ... all the barrel will do is improve accuracy a little and youll get a tad bit more range. The main factor in improved range is your spring. Also, .25 will give you better accuracy and a little less range. .2s are for the most range but least accuracy. So, this is what youll want to buy for the gun
Sep 14, 2003 10:12pm
oops :oops: my bad....
Sep 14, 2003 10:30pm
haha. You should listen to these guys, they prolly know a lot more than me...I thought that barrel length increased overall range (cause that was something i read in DumboRat's newb guide. But according to that airsofplayers site I was still rigtht about the .2 bbs. Those give you max range but you can't hit anything with them...and they guy was asking for max range. But anyway, I'll prolly stop posting advice since it seems to conflict with what everyone else says.
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Sep 14, 2003 10:37pm
The main factor in improved range is your spring. Also, .25 will give you better accuracy and a little less range. .2s are for the most range but least accuracy.
Sep 14, 2003 10:59pm
Oh haha, I should have been more clear. I was wondering why you didn't put spring and bushings in the following list:
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Sep 14, 2003 11:20pm
yah, I really dont know why i didnt so yah, go ahead and add a spring and bushings to the list. even with all those he will still be under the $200 spending limit
Sep 15, 2003 12:51am
well under. make sure if you go that route, that you do indeed get a silencer long enough to cover the m16 inner barrel. I believe the Sig550 barrel works well with a socom silencer. but I wouldnt know... haven't done it.
Sep 15, 2003 1:02am
Systema SIG550 (534mm) tightbore barrel will fit with the CA SOCOM Silencer
Sep 15, 2003 4:31am
when you get a longer inner barrel and a silencer, the silencer becomes a "barrel jacket" for that purpose of covering the extended area of the barrel that breaks or pertudes through the muzzle.
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Sep 15, 2003 11:36am
Ok ere is my 2 cents. The heavier the bb the bettr range according to the link that Broden gave us. Next the Silencer jacket dealio is great for covering the inner barrel but as I have just found out by putting a 543mm inner barrel on my m4 and then covering it with a silencer is now I have serious inner barrel wobble problem. I have about a mm of space in the silencer and a little less than that in the outer barrel. Which means my accuracy is way off like 3 inches at 20 feet, compared to my stock mp5. So at a greater distance this of course is going to get bigger. My usaul engagement distance is about 80-100 feet, so about 15 inches of variation or more which negates the whole reason I purchesed the long inner barrel.
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Sep 15, 2003 3:17pm
[quote="poser"]I have about a mm of space in the silencer and a little less than that in the outer barrel. Which means my accuracy is way off like 3 inches at 20 feet, compared to my stock mp5. So at a greater distance this of course is going to get bigger. My usaul engagement distance is about 80-100 feet, so about 15 inches of variation or more which negates the whole reason I purchesed the long inner barrel.
Sep 15, 2003 8:06pm
thanks bro I will try that.
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Sep 15, 2003 8:11pm
[quote="poser"]thanks bro I will try that.[/quote]
Sep 16, 2003 12:14am
I was thinking the same thing. You know me and tac tape go way back 8)
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Sep 16, 2003 2:56pm
hehehe....
Sep 16, 2003 3:16pm
You know the hairy palm thing :shock:
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Sep 16, 2003 7:10pm
so that's why you wear gloves...LoL