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hey im 15 and now getting around the age of wanting a car. my choices where a 91 rx7 or a 95 20sx. so i was thinking is there anyone on sac air that know anything about 240sx, the rx7 or rotary engines in general.? i was going to get a 240sx and buy some stuff for it like hks turbo and a intercooler, stuff for the engine so that it can handle the turbo. stuff like that. also does anyone know where i could learn to put all this in myself? because i realy want to get into cars...almost as much as i wanted to get into airsoft :lol:

don't tell me your parents are buyin you a car.

[quote="chongsae"]i was going to get a 240sx and buy some stuff for it like hks turbo and a intercooler, stuff for the engine so that it can handle the turbo.[/quote]

lol RCAS i like the pic, those NG guys were on our FOB, the tall mofo on the far right is our BN commader.... wel was he got relieved after that little incident lol. sorry to threade hijack

rotary are a pain in the ass to maintain, so be prepared to spend lots of money with that. and fyi, a turbo kit on a 240sx will not pass california smog, so if you don't know any insiders that'll help you out (which is illegal), you will have a bitch of a time trying to reregister every two years. also, if you get pulled over, you are screwed if the cop suspects illegal mods.

+1 on what Andrew said about rotarys...First learn how a turbo and intercooler works, injector duty cycle, knock/retard, 02's, alcohol injection (crappy CA gas), BLM's, F/P, CFM V Injector size...BTW HKs box kits are garbage...turbonetics and spearco is what was on my GN...

do u even have a job?thats the quesiton...how do expect to pay for insurance and all that,on top of a turbo,boost control,gauge,intercooler,etc.??

RX7's burn a lotta oil. At least my friend's did...

Wow. Calm down there Evo boy. We're discussing a car he wants, not wether or not he can afford insurance for a 10-15 year old import. Which is bad enough for a first time male driver anyway.

that thing about smog isnt neccisarly true. what you do is, when you have them do the fuel mapping for the turbo(which you wont do yourself cause anyone whos good at it has taken classes and has degrees etc) have them make two fuel maps. one for full boost, and one for very little boost. when its time to smog your car, dial the boost waaaaaaaaaaay out so its only at like 3-5 psi. then the emissions wont go up too much. after it passes smog, dial the boost back up to 10-15-17 psi and make tons of HP again

if i were you, i would just get a car that comes turbo'd from the factory. less to worry about, and you can easily upgrade the turbo if you'd like. the hard thing about turboing an n/a vehicle is the prep, i.e., having the correct compression ratio, having strong enough internals, injectors, etc. sure, you can swap in a turbo kit or whatever, but that's far from doing it right.

This is CA. If your turbo 'kit' isnt factory and it doesnt a have a cool little sticker saying its smog legal, then it isnt smog legal. Period. Regardless of what your tailpipe says.

Thats why you buy C.A.R.B. exempt parts...which most major companies tend to get exemption orders for thier parts

xxsparx, don't forget, you have to pass VISUAL too. that means if the car wasn't meant to have a turbo, but there's a turbo on it, then something's wrong. a ton of my friends uninstall everything before smogs, then put it all back in after (the ones that aren't lucky enough to have hook-ups).

xxsparx, find me a cheap CARB legal turbo kit and post it up. there's only a few, but they're either hella expensive or they suck ass. if i wasn't right, everyone and their mom would have a turbo'd integra or civic right now.

I havent done the research. But, it would be possible to take a turbo off of a stock car that has one, then get a C.A.R.B. exempt manifold and exhaust system with a little custom work. Since the turbo would be off a stock car, its considered stock. Believe me I know, I put a muffler on my car from a stock GTO so that my car is louder, but the law can't do shit because its a stock part. The same would go for a turbo.

Also if you do this, try and get stuff in brushed aluminum or a flat black, and get some 'turbo' badging for your car, theres a lot of dumb cops out there that just look for shiny. or if they are REALLY dumb(which has happened) they will think the turbo badging means it came stock with a turbo

the OP was interested in a 240sx. now correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not much into jdm, but i'm pretty sure there aren't any stock turbo 240's in the states.

[quote="xxsparx89xx"]Also if you do this, try and get stuff in brushed aluminum or a flat black, and get some 'turbo' badging for your car, theres a lot of dumb cops out there that just look for shiny. or if they are REALLY dumb(which has happened) they will think the turbo badging means it came stock with a turbo[/quote]

Here is a car I found on Ebay

nice find, but you'd probably have a hard time registering that car in cali. it's in canada first of all, and second it's jdm spec

Id rock the RX as a "stock" track car. Its nothing special but it would be diferent. If you wanna look cool for school the go the 240. Turbo's are overrated IMO. If you go this a turbo make sure its matched to your engine; NOT "this is teh biggest most coolest terbo in teh summit catalog" According to my auto teacher who has a cousin working for one of the tubro companies, a properly matched turbo doesnt lag much(the cool magazines whine about turbo lag). Take auto in school. Trust me it helps. Make sure its a manual transmission or dont even bother. Good luck.

I'd recommend, if this is your first car, a nice, slow, reliable, good-gas-mileage having import. Honda or something of that sort, 92-whatever.

[quote="Andrew"]good luck finding a online forum not filled with driftastic retards trying to ghost ride da' whip with mAd TyTe DyNo NuMbErS. [/quote]

[quote="foothill_airsofter"][quote="Andrew"]good luck finding a online forum not filled with driftastic retards trying to ghost ride da' whip with mAd TyTe DyNo NuMbErS. [/quote]

thanks for all the help guys and buyt the way i wasnt planing of drifting xD at least not till i get another shyt car i can do it on. ill read the rest when i come back and reply with a better response

[quote="livesoundz"]rotary are a pain in the ass to maintain, so be prepared to spend lots of money with that. and fyi, a turbo kit on a 240sx will not pass california smog, so if you don't know any insiders that'll help you out (which is illegal), you will have a *female dog* of a time trying to reregister every two years. also, if you get pulled over, you are screwed if the cop suspects illegal mods.

[quote="livesoundz"]the OP was interested in a 240sx. now correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not much into jdm, but i'm pretty sure there aren't any stock turbo 240's in the states.[/quote]

thanks dude but i some what prize my life. i probably wont go drifting in ANY of the cars i choose. if i did it would be in a shit car with fuel rails and a nice suspesion because i dont want to ruin this, i already have a car, its a toyota truck. i dont like automatics. in fact my truck is manual. and i wanted a 240sx and rx7 because of the engine, the 240 was the only standard V dohc car i liked and the rx7 was the only rotary engine i liked....

also thanks everybody for all the info on turbos, ill get a stock 240 with the stock turbo in it, maby do some suspention stuff to it and then intake blah blah blah, also i refuse to put body kits on anything....