SACair Forum

I read a lot of garbage on this site about Team NORCA. And I want to clear a few things up. We aggressed NORCA in the first game I had no issue what so ever with NORCA players calling hits weather or not they put their hands up and walked away or called out audibly is beside the point they graciously went to the respon and waited for the proper amount of time. I did have a problem with the other groups that were on our side in the first game. Absolutely no coordination or teamwork only on our last charge with two minutes left did we come close. And only then because some people listened to us.

WFT? dont come on here trying to tell us how to play our game. you CAN expect with a stock TM gun that you bought at Sinister Paintball for $500.00 a extra low cap mag and T-shirt to overcome, if not win atleast have fun. Thats what sacair is about man, laid back FUN

that was just retarded made no sense whatsoever, i can see why ron is gettin fuckin pissed off.

So why all the trash talking. if its just for fun why did every one make such a big deal and it wasnt your game anyway.

What does "WFT" mean dont you mean "WTF"

maybe you assholes* should get your own site then, if your going to try and use our fields and organize your shit here use our rules and our governing body

I have a 20 acre feild in lincon that I "OWN" you don't "OWN" that field it is BLM land and it was understood that it was NORCAs game from the beginning. and by the way I am not assotiated with NORCA just defending them from the garbage people are throwing.

...who cares. if you guys think you and team norca played better then that's that. if other people called them cheaters so what? I doubt the losing team called norca cheaters just because they lost...they probably truly thought some cheating was going on and were just mistaken. people make mistakes sometimes. and to trashtalk back like this just lowers you to the level of the trash talkers anyway. why don't you just ignore it? if everyone just understands that it's human nature to insult one another A LOT, but that those insults usually don't mean a thing, then these boards would be a whole lot nicer place.

THEN USE THAT FIELD plain and simple, and use your own website.

I will concede to what anguirus130 said. he is right. but it angers me read some of things that i read. we went out to have fun and did. we did not expect the amount of trash that got thown at us it was un called for.

so then you want a game, a challenge? get your wack ass team and ill get mine together, i will also get some refs, we will play we will see, doesnt matter if you have a stock gun or an upgraded gun, theres ways to overcome how to stop getting out ranged, like be more stealth and get up on the tango yada yada...my gun shoots lower than stock..i have no complaints about it...

Dont talk to me about stealth until you do a two week live fire LRRP though a jungle or dessert where their is no respon just body bags and 9 line medivacs. and your enemy dosnt call hit and put there gun in the air they call for allah and there mother and die infront of you there is no cheating their. further more WACK is quite the blast from a guy who probably has never seen or never will see live combat.

:lol: OWN3D

both of you guys seem like you are 12

Its obvious that everyone involved here is getting angry but none of this is getting solved. I am the owner of NORCA Army Navy and I was there at the game and not once was anyone big enough to approach me or Kevin ,one of your guys and say hey they did this, or I saw that. No one complained that the scenarios were unfair or they didn't like them or even come up with any suggestions for one of the next games. How can this become a more fair game or become something recognized like paintball is if noone wants to step up to the plate. I made my feelings very well known how I felt about cheating and I would have thought that I would Have been aproached during the games if something outragious was taking place.I don't like the attitude from any of my people or the others out there that ha! ha! we are better than you and your just a sore loser. There is no call for this kind of crap. By cheating I mean deliberately knowing that your taking hits and not removing yourself from play. If there needs to be a certain way of calling yourself out thats great, then lets do that , I could care less the point is remove yourself from play.I made the comment at the game that the probability of everyone, at some point in time being hit while running or at other times during play and not knowing about it was very likely and the more chances you take in the open the greater the probability. I don't see why, for instance, If someone shoots one of my guys during a game and he isn't aware of it, why don't you guys come up after the game and say something along the lines of "hey man I hit you that last game, I was bouncing bb's off your gear. No-one is going to start any kind of fight from my team or they gone from the team immediatly. Any of you site admin guys that have heard or seen any more of this stuff I invite you as well as the people involved to come in to the shop and lets put an end to this crap it's a waste of all of our time. lastly we didn't mean to offend anyone by using this site to let everyone know about games if you don't want us to post here that wont make me happy but I'm not going to go aginst what the people in charge want. My main goal is to make this not only a fair, fun time but maybe a nationwide competition like paintball, but you know what guys? we all gotta start with a little integrity.

Out played?!?!?

Look I don't mean to upset or offend any one. In the lite of what Jeff said I apologize for some remarks that may have been out of line. However I still stand by my original position that no cheating took place at the game on any side. I don't understand why the issue was even raised or who raised it. It seemed to me like everyone had fun on sunday. I just want to play more and have fun.

dude, i dont even think your old enough to go out and be in the military. check your spelling, it gives it away. mabee? conferrmed? whatever man, stop living in a silicon world and slap yourself into reality. As for telling us whether or not our team plays right, what IS right? Your opinion of right does not seem to coordinate with ours.

Look I just opolagized to you people and you cant even take that. Yeah my spelling sucks but for your information I am 24 Years old and a VFW if you even know what that means. again play how you want I am sorry I enraged you. and that my spelling offended you. mabee we just drop it and try to have fun.

sorry dude, spelling usually alerts to me as to how old someone is. just lighten up and play thats our motto. ull have fun if u do just that.

Cool thanx Im glad we understand each other I look forward to playing with you.

Come on guys lets quite throwing crap at each other and get back to solving this problem. We are not on seperate sides of the fence here! we are all airsoft players and like it or not it's not gonna help any of us find a game if everyone is pissed off at each other because everyone can't stop arguing. As far as the comment as to the unfair game. The intention was never to provide targets to shoot for the teams inside, But there was no objection from anyone before the game began. Next time please bring this up before we play so that all concerns can be heard and changes can be made before the game instead of complaining after. I'm sorry you felt the game was unfair. On another note I personaly talked to several people before the game that didn't want to play with the younger guys and basically told them to give them a chance. After the game I went over to their vehicle and personally thanked them for playing so honorably and invited them back for the games in the future. Their Father was appreciative. This is what this game is about guys, don't make judgements before you let someone have the chance to prove themselves and don't be afraid to speak up (not argue)when things go good or bad. Talk and understanding can move mountains all arguing does is tear them down.

A thread that asked wether Sacair was cheated or outplayed only fueled the flames.... :wink:

joel, or Darkcobra, thank you very much...oh BTW how was the game on sunday at ord? LoL ...were the doors ok? hehehehe.

[quote="JChandler"]Also you can not expect with a stock TM gun that you bought at Sinister Paintball for $500.00 a extra low cap mag and T-shirt to overcome with no team work practice or training; a team or the case of the second game two teams with coordinated command structure, direction, commitment, live fire combat experience, formal Military training some (Special Forces), and thousands of dollars worth of gear guns and mags. If you want to win train and spend more money "Visualize World Peace Through Superior Fire Power" I am sorry you all feel so hurt and feel a need to talk trash about our team or NORCA but I can tell you that no cheating took place with NORCA. Try harder organizing and train and we will be happy to play again next time. Team SPECWAR.[/quote]

why can't we stop the sarcasm and insulting...

i'll tell ya what, I didnt read 1 freakin word of this thread, ya know why? Because I dont like to read all the Bullshit threads/posts and what not, wastes too much of my time

dammit!!! i hate it when they apologize...

The only beef ive got is something that is hard for me to ignore.

willy, ok good point, agreed with you on that note for sure, bakafetus didnt mean to insult/disrepect anyone. i will take responsibility for that one for him, i know him personally and he means no disrespect for sure.