If you are on a budget, get a 9mm. Ammo is about a 1/4 less of what 45 is going for right now. 9mm is plenty for self defense as well.
[quote="michaeld"][quote="Andrew"] Anyone that says 9mm is complete weak sauce and doesn't kill people is an internet asshat.[/quote]
I thought the age requirement for pistols in CA was 21?
Seek the Narrow Gate, for the path is broad and the gate is wide that leads to destruction.
Just so you know, the new S&W M&P pistols are having issues with magazines dropping free without the button being hit. I would hold off on them for a few months, let S&W work the bugs out.
Vic Makey could just use a phone book.
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[quote="Andrew"]Vic Makey could just use a phone book.