SACair Forum

m4 vs m16

May 8, 2008 9:20pm
Ok so I know that they are basicly the same gun aside from the fact that they have differant length barrels. my question is how much more accurate should I expect a M16 to be over an M4 carbine?
current gun Echo 1 614 (430fps), TM m16a2 (365 fps), TM high-capa 5.1 ( 330 fps )
May 8, 2008 9:22pm
M4 is more convenient for me, m16 is just a bit too long.
[quote="Amateur Ninja"]obviously you dont know him.
May 8, 2008 9:31pm
key for range is having an efficient seal and having an excellent working hop up...if an MP5 that shoots 430 FPS with this....it will shoot as far as a 430 FPS M16 that also has an efficient seal and excellent hop...
May 8, 2008 9:32pm
the M16 IF IF you do the rite upgrades to it will have more range than a M4 but if you do the M4 mod with the silencer you can insert a longer barrel :) its what every one prefers i guess ;) range and accuracy usually comes with a good hop unit and a good TB barrel
"1 shot 1 kill"
May 8, 2008 9:33pm
man snoopy you took my words ;)
"1 shot 1 kill"
May 8, 2008 9:33pm
[quote="aka_sniper"]the M16 IF IF you do the rite upgrades to it will have more range than a M4 but if you do the M4 mod with the silencer you can insert a longer barrel :) ...[/quote]
May 8, 2008 9:36pm
[quote="aka_sniper"]man snoopy you took my words ;)[/quote]
May 9, 2008 4:30am
Dont buy a gun made by ics
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· Supreme ChancellorMay 9, 2008 4:32am
[quote="THOR"]Dont buy a gun made by ics[/quote]
HeadOnTactical.com
May 9, 2008 4:32am
why not?
· Supreme ChancellorMay 9, 2008 4:38am
Well, I suppose you could start throwing the BB's out of your magazine. But who would call that hit?
HeadOnTactical.com
May 9, 2008 4:39am
there are no rules about having to and not having to call hit from BBs thrown...
May 9, 2008 4:40am
[quote="Supreme Chancellor Drew"]Well, I suppose you could start throwing the BB's out of your magazine. But who would call that hit?[/quote]
Some say-That it's impossible for him to wear socks, and he can open a beer bottle with his testes.
May 9, 2008 4:42am
[quote="sure_shot"][quote="Supreme Chancellor Drew"]Well, I suppose you could start throwing the BB's out of your magazine. But who would call that hit?[/quote]
May 9, 2008 4:53am
[quote="buckles"]
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May 9, 2008 4:54am
yes, I would have called hit had i been the other guy :lol:
May 9, 2008 5:02am
[quote="buckles"][quote="sure_shot"][quote="Supreme Chancellor Drew"]Well, I suppose you could start throwing the BB's out of your magazine. But who would call that hit?[/quote]
May 9, 2008 7:29am
[quote]aka_sniper wrote:
May 9, 2008 7:57am
well in my vsr its a proven fact tested by me that the accuracy is better with a longer barrel............. it also depends what diameter the inner barrel has, and who makes it...... thats from my experiance though some people might have different opinions and facts about this type of subject.....
"1 shot 1 kill"
May 9, 2008 9:12am
anyone know where there might be a guide on barrel length and its effects on accuracy? I understand the the max range may not me effected but If I can turn a 4' spread at max range into a 2' spread that would help.
current gun Echo 1 614 (430fps), TM m16a2 (365 fps), TM high-capa 5.1 ( 330 fps )
May 9, 2008 9:13am
I resorted in getting .25's instead of a longer barrel and using .20's.
[quote="Amateur Ninja"]obviously you dont know him.
May 9, 2008 3:03pm
from what I have been reading the barrel length dosn't make all that much differance and the hop up and fps consistancy are more important than an extra 80mm of barrel.
current gun Echo 1 614 (430fps), TM m16a2 (365 fps), TM high-capa 5.1 ( 330 fps )
May 9, 2008 3:49pm
[quote="Austen"][quote="buckles"][quote="sure_shot"][quote="Supreme Chancellor Drew"]Well, I suppose you could start throwing the BB's out of your magazine. But who would call that hit?[/quote]
· Supreme ChancellorMay 9, 2008 5:27pm
Wraith,
HeadOnTactical.com
May 9, 2008 10:18pm
[quote="matt.k"]from what I have been reading the barrel length dosn't make all that much differance and the hop up and fps consistancy are more important than an extra 80mm of barrel.
May 10, 2008 1:28am
so snoopy am i stating it wrong when i said "range and accuracy usually comes with a good hop unit and a good TB barrel " and what i meant by a good Hop Unit is air seal also just forgot to state it.... i never said that two equaly upgraded guns in most aeg's will be about the same in accuracy and range.
"1 shot 1 kill"
May 10, 2008 1:36am
its an incomplete argument...
May 10, 2008 1:38am
know what you mean :) its all good
"1 shot 1 kill"
May 10, 2008 2:16am
[url][quote="aka_sniper"]well in my vsr its a proven fact tested by me that the accuracy is better with a longer barrel............. it also depends what diameter the inner barrel has, and who makes it...... thats from my experiance though some people might have different opinions and facts about this type of subject.....[/quote]
May 10, 2008 3:46am
now you said it :) just perfect 8)
"1 shot 1 kill"