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Does anyone know how the military or swat are trained for cqb, pertaining to how their primary weapon is adjusted (sling), shouldered, targeted, etc.? The same goes for sidearms training in cqb. After a fair amount of online research, most of the stuff is “pay-to-play”: buy this DVD or book, take this training course…

The generally accepted way to aim your rifle is nose to charging handle. Or basically, the closest you can get to the rear sight. And the way to accomplish that while squaring up to your target(more on that if you want) is with a short stock. Examples:

Well here's my take on collapsible stocks...

I think you misunderstood his question.

[quote="Andrew"]The generally accepted way to aim your rifle is nose to charging handle. Or basically, the closest you can get to the rear sight. And the way to accomplish that while squaring up to your target(more on that if you want) is with a short stock.

Smaller silhouette is how you hold yourself. You can give me an M14 or a Glock and I'll give you the same front and back silhouette. Now we are getting into tactics.....

Andrew yes you are correct. but a smaller gun will give a smaller silhouette.

Off topic but those are some nice pics Andrew!

[quote="Spooky"]Andrew yes you are correct. but a smaller gun will give a smaller silhouette. [/quote]

I just made the same comparison with different guns.

Sorry your points are not made. I will show you what i mean next time I see you. However you are both wrong.

Then its settled! We shall play with toy guns next time you stop by the shop. Maybe take pictures? 8)

[quote="Andrew"]Then its settled! We shall play with toy guns next time you stop by the shop. Maybe take pictures? 8)[/quote]

Brilliant!

Andrew,

Apologies for not getting back to the thread I started until now. I concur or maybe I conquer, whatever, those are excellent pics. Dead-on what I was looking for.

[quote="newmadtick"]but I can pretend, right?[/quote]

Humor my shrinking ignorance and define MOUT, and what's the important distinction from cqb?

MOUT - Military Operations in Urban Terrain

This is airsoft most of our tactics are not useable because Airsoft guns can not shoot far enough.

[quote="Spooky"]This is airsoft most of our tactics are not useable because Airsoft guns can not shoot far enough.

CQB = Close Quarter Battle. Engagement within a room, hall or floor with small arms fire

True, a reality in woodland, but completely true in inter-building and intra-building as well?

that statement is completely incomprehensible.

inter = within, intra = between... savvy?

the entire statement. True to what? True that it's just airsoft?

In response to 1fstrex, I said true airsoft is very limited in range, but wondered if room to room & building to building tactics could be virtually the same as the real deal...

I see. Answer to that is yes and no.

bb's CAN NOT be equal to to BULLETS!!!